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Offline bill m

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vinyl roof
« on: December 18, 2008, 06:24:00 PM »
Gday
I'm thinking of repainting my '69 4 door. Can anyone recommend a place to have the vinyl roof redone in melbourne. Also the vinyl falls short of the gutter and how does the trim around the edge of the vinyl come off. look forward to a reply. bill

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 07:41:40 PM »
G'day Bill,

The trim is held on by clips that are retained by the Spot-welded tabs called "Weld Studs" that are the same as those that are used to retain the windscreen trim in place.

As far as removing the moldings, I am not exactly sure, but I would envisage that the molding is simply pressed onto the clips.

But, be aware that if there is any bubbling of the vinyl, you will have serious rustification under the vinyl.   As the process was to not paint the roof that well, and glue the vinyl to the metal.

If it is a padded top, then the rustification will most likely be even worse.   The foam is a real moisture absorbant.

Bruce. >:D

 
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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2008, 09:04:24 PM »
thanks bruce
yes there is bubbling which is one reason i wanted to get it off, before the roof gets holes in it.The panel beater said it would look and feel worst than what it really is. Sounds like it may take a bit to get it of as well.  bill

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2008, 10:42:10 PM »
Where is the actual bubbling?

At the rear window edge?   Between the rear Window and the Boot Lid?

Trust me, if there is bubbling, then it WILL be bad when you remove the vinyl.

What the bubbling is is the metal underneath rusting, and the rustification is expanding under the vinyl, and lifting it.

One of the real problems with the GM cars of the late '60's and early '70's is that there isn't sufficient drainage where the water gathers around the rear window.

I am working on a '69 SDV where there was signs of rust under the vinyl at the rear of the window, and the Bodyworks ended up replacing the whole rear panel behind the window, from side to side, including the Hinge Brackets and the interior Parcel Shelf.   The complete panel had to come from a wrecker in USA.

Hope yours isn't as bad, but be prepared.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2008, 02:49:44 PM »
yes its around the rear window.
I'm not sure what to do know. Its a good car and it would be a shame to let it go.
   bill

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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2008, 12:55:32 PM »
Have you any pictures of the "Offending" area you can fost, or email me?

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2008, 05:21:48 PM »
Thanks bruce
I'm taking the car up to hanging rock, if you are going i will try and track you down so you can have a look.
 bill

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2008, 03:46:29 PM »
Sorry Bill,

Won't be there.

I don't get off the Island much, especially with a car.

Next time will be to Bathurst in '10

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2008, 09:12:43 AM »
You must live down in tassy
I have taken a couple of photo's but cannot see the rust under the vinyl in the photo's. Its more what you can feel.
I will go back to the painter with the news you gave me, and see what he thinks.
Have a merry xmass and happy new year and thanks for the info.
BILL

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2008, 09:34:56 AM »
Bill,

I agree with Bruce. Sorry. It'll be worse than you think.

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2008, 11:04:08 AM »
Yes Bill,

I am the original Tassie Devil(le), but now I have an Eldorado instead of a deVille, I should call myself The Tassie Devil(dorado) but that doesn't sound the same.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2008, 04:10:12 PM »
Thanks Dale
I'll let you all know in the new year what the painter said about it.
bill

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2009, 07:40:04 PM »
Thanks guys .....  :o :o  for the horror storys I Still have to fix the roof on my 56 cadillac hearse and it has the foam under it also :'( :'( :'(

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2009, 09:21:28 PM »
gday everybody
back to the roof, I have taken the car back to panel beater told him the rust may worse than it looks he lost interest very quick . He said to peel the vinyl back and see what it looks like, I think i will do that when i get a chance . till next time.    bill

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Re: vinyl roof
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2009, 10:59:57 PM »
Oh, the saga goes on.

Bruce. >:D

PS.   Not a good thing when trades people abandon projects at the slightest idea of a problem.
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