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Offline 57flw

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More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« on: October 01, 2009, 07:09:00 PM »
Hi All,

Here is the latest from my rebuild job.

Getting the body off the chassis with my hoist.

Off she comes. Easy as.

Chassis sandblasted and primed.

All going well so far.

Ken

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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 06:53:17 PM »
More info.


I have organised the following new bits and pieces.

New headliner made and on its way.
New Heavy Duty Springs.
New exhaust system.
New hood pad.
New Deluxe front end kit.
New Shock absorbers.
New hub caps and medallions.
New hood crest and bezel.

Overhauled the following.

Starter Motor.
Hydrovac.
Wheel cylinders.

Working on the engine at the moment.


Currently trying to organise new Rubbers, grommets, seals etc for everywhere.

I have a friend who is bringing in a container to Australia out of Wilmington CA. and I have been lucky enough to be able to hitch a ride for my new goodies.

I can't believe how much everything costs. OOPS I forgot I answer my wife with, Not Much It Was a Bargain, whenever she asks.
Anyway I hope I can do all these purchases justice and turn this car from a sh*tallac into a Cadillac.

More to come


Whilst I am waiting on all the bits to rebuild the chassis I am working on the engine and have sent the body off to the guy who is going to make it beautifull, once again.


I have a question about the park brake.


When I first got the car I rolled it off the truck and applied the park brake.
I have never been able to get it off since.
Big pedal on, small pedal off. This is how it is done?
I have never had a car with this type of setup.

I had to release the  cable to get the brakes off before I could start the strip down process.

Here is a couple of photos of the brake before I pulled it out of the car.

Does a problem jump out at anyone?

Ken



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Offline Bruce Reynolds

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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 11:30:21 PM »
One of the problems with a lot of Park Brakes in cars from America is that the drivers just don't use them, and the internals simply rust up.

The first time they are pressed, the cable simply locks up, and won't allow itself to move when the pedal is released.

Bruce. >:D
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 04:56:12 PM »
Hi Ken.
For the park brake, did you find the manual release lever? It's a small black pressed steel lever sticking out from the park brake mechanism near the small park brake pedal.

Dale.
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 07:14:24 PM »
Bruce.

With the cable removed I still cannot get it to release.


Dale.

Tell me more. Not sure what you are talking about.
Is it shown in the picture I provided?

Ken
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 09:51:46 PM »
I am not familiar with your unit, but there should be a Pawl and Spring inside it, and possibly a return Spring in there as well, plus, don't forget that the return springs inside the Brake Drums, at the end of the Brake Cables will also act as return springs to pull the cables back when the pawl is disengaged.

Have you tried pulling the pedal back with your hand whilst pressing on the release pedal?

Bruce. >:D
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2009, 01:18:39 PM »
I will put the park brake problem aside for the moment.
I have bigger problems than that now.

A Cracked Head. :o

Have a look at the photo.

The machine shop guy said he cannot fix it because of it's location.
Where do I get another head or two from that is not cracked also?

Ken

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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 05:25:54 PM »
Mmmmm.
Sorry to hear about that. In my experience, Cadillac heads have a habit of cracking even from just removing them from the block! Hard to believe, but I've seen it more than once.

As for the new heads, asking club members on this site is always a good first option.

Good luck,
Dale.
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 11:58:40 AM »
I found a head with the help of this forum but unfortunately when the owner checked it out it showed it was no good.
So back to the drawing board.
I still need a R/H Head.

Do any of the other years fit my 365 engine?
I have a 1957. Will 1958, 1959 and 1960 fit?
I may have found a 1959 in Brisbane.

Ken
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2009, 08:59:33 PM »
I have painted the Chassis and fitted the new coil and leaf springs along with ball joints and camber/caster shafts.

Still working on getting the replacement head from America.

Here is a few more photo's to keep you all updated.
I am really enjoying doing this car.

Keep checking back.
It won't happen overnight but it will happen.

Ken


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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2010, 10:36:22 PM »
Hi Guys,

I received another water pump when I got my bits for the airconditioner that I am going to fit to my 1957 Fleetwood.

I cannot see any physical difference between what should be a non aircon pump  and an aircon one.

Is the difference internal?

Regards

Ken
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2010, 10:19:36 AM »
Hi Ken.

No, there is no difference. Internally the impellers and everything are the same. In some later years, the difference is that the positions of some of the hose attach bosses are different. Sometimes however, you will find that the water pump housing will hit the A/C compressor mounting bracket. This will mean you have to grind away the offending area. Other than that, nothing.

I looked right into this once for a customer's car (suspecting a bigger impeller for A/C equipped cars). All water pumps from 1940 something to something like 1962 are exactly the same. I confirmed my theory by calling All American Auto Parts and having them look through their old replacement parts catalogues.

Hope this helps.

Dale.
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 08:08:18 PM »
Latest update.

Compared the two water pumps a bit closer. Still cannot see the difference and I suppose in the long run if the differences are not that noticable it really is something I do not need to get excited about. 

Finally freed up the park brake set up. Just siezed through the lack of use. Used a can of WD40 and a lot of soaking hours and it is now all good.

The crack free replacement heads are on their way from the USA.

I will need to do a complete engine job. this will include .040 oversize pistons and rings.
Where does one go for a good deal on parts.
I looked on the All American Parts list and could not believe a set of pistons is $850.00.
Surely there is a better price than this somewhere else.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
I need a complete overhaul kit.

Ken
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 09:59:06 PM »
How about USA Parts Supply
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Re: More of my 1957 Fleetwood rebuild.
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2010, 08:37:33 PM »
Hi Macka,

Thanks for that. I  sent a question, in regards to pricing, off to them a couple of days ago.
Waiting for a reply.

Ken
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